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Poster: rpforrest Date: Aug 12, 2010 10:43am
Forum: classic_tv Subject: Public Domain

This my sound like a silly question, but,I'd like to know,How exactly does one find out whats in Public Domain and what isnt?

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Poster: adamelijah Date: Aug 14, 2010 11:24am
Forum: classic_tv Subject: Re: Public Domain

The Archive has this information on its FAQ:


For works made from 1923 to 1949, post a question to the movie forum on this site before you upload. The copyright could have been renewed and there isn't a way online to check a film's copyright status.

For works made from 1950 to 1963, you can check the title at the Library of Congress Copyright Database for copyright renewals: http://www.copyright.gov/records/cohm.html . This will list copyright renewals for most films.

If the copyright notice is 1964 or later, the copyright is probably still valid and the film should not be uploaded unless you are the copyright holder.

There were few TV shows prior to 1950 and I'm not aware of any with renewed copyrights. 1950-63 is the Sweet Spot for most of the Classic TV. Beyond that, there were a few made for TV movies that left off a copyright notice.

You have to check the classic shows. Some shows weren't renewed at all (Lock Up, Philip Marlowe, Martin Kane, Federal Men), others were renewed only part way (Decoy, Dragnet 1950s version, Richard Diamond, I Led Three Lives, Boston Blackie), and some were renewed in full though they've been neglected (exs: Tightrope, Mr. Lucky), and other classic TV has been locked up tighter than Fort Knox becuase it's still commercially viable after all these years.

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Poster: cathyftr Date: Aug 14, 2010 7:31pm
Forum: classic_tv Subject: Re: Public Domain

The classic/not-so-classic 1968 sitcom "The Mothers-In-Law" had an interesting history about being in PD for a time but no longer is.

When Desilu was sold to Paramount in the mid 60's, for some reason The Mothers-In-Law wasn't included even though it was a Desilu production..perhaps because Mothers was Desi's and Lucille Ball still had issues with her ex-husband, have no idea.

Anyway The Mothers-In-Law fell into PD. Stayed that way for many years. Actually at one point Jerry Fogel ( who played the son on the show ) and even series star Kaye Ballard actually uploaded a few shows on You Tube on their own for awhile and they got a ton of hits.

Lucie Arnaz noticed it and from what I was told she not only in secret had bought the rights but she even had Fogel and Ballard's clips yanked from You Tube ( oh neither were very happy about that !! ).. Lucie then sold the rights to some company called MPI ( Shout Factory ) and the show is now on DVD.

..and chances are I bet Fogel and Ballard got screwed

..sorry I had to edited this twice..been a LONG day UGH !!!

This post was modified by cathyftr on 2010-08-15 02:30:02

This post was modified by cathyftr on 2010-08-15 02:31:21

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Poster: HaarFager872 Date: Oct 8, 2010 11:37am
Forum: classic_tv Subject: Re: Public Domain

I don't know if it's the same MPI, but Paul McCartney has a company called MPI, McCartney Productions, Inc., and buys up lots of old things such as Broadway scores, Buddy Holly's song rights, and owns several movie and tv shows as well. The Mother's In Laws sounds like something right up his alley.

I really liked that show when it was on. Kaye Ballard was also on Due North as one of the main character's Italian mother.